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I also vote for one element per area, and cliffs seem to be needed too. What was your reason to get rid of them? I assume you thought about it, right?

Jolin, to get to wave 45 you have to fill the entire map with elemetal arrows.

Interesting. We know that guy, hes a long time forum member and probably just was tired.

Beautiful.

In pick you can easily avoid building 3 aoe/splash tripples. Just have an impulse or zealot and keep 1500 gold for a pack of elemental arrows. Relocate the arrows once and all should be fine.

I (allmost) never fail with this upgrade, so maybe somebody than can fail with it can provide a replay? So maybe we can discuss if playing differently would save the situation?

I remember when kara gave us the last terrain, and everybody was "oh noes, make them all identical". I like how all of a sudden we all are "make 8 different ones". Much better imo.

I don't ming upgrading to monsoon during a wave, as long as it's not late into it. I loose a few seconds of slow, but then they basically stand still.

Hey Void, sorry to be part of this wall of critisism. Your mapping examples (the ones linked in your sig) clearly show that you are one excellent mapper, but none of those is similiar to this task. The eletd map is tiny compared to your older works, so you don't have room to let your usual skills shine. I'd say that you put to many different terrain styles into one playing area. I'd really like to see some of your great lighting skills on eletd. Is it possible to use different lighting for different sections of the map? Or are those effects cinematic only? About the cliffs: I guess they are needed for orientation purposes. I just checked the cliff options in worldedit. Can cliffs from different tilesets be combined? If so, then there is a good selection of them. Is there a reason why you didn't use them in your version? Do you think they look unnatural? Make the map look too much like a constructed maze? Here are just some of them that I liked: Cliff example 01.jpg Cliff example 02.jpg Cliff example 03.jpg Cliff example 04.jpg Cliff example 05.jpg Cliff example 06.jpg

No dual? Energy towers will. Oh, you mean lv1 dual? Try to mass electricity with support, and see what happens. With decent slow it should be no problem.

Worker: 1 Temp arrows: 2 Dmg towers that need micro (impulse etc): 2 Windstorm: 3 Tidal: 4 Elemental Summoning center: 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0. (Don't want to look for this one.)

..or manually start the windstorm again after the 45 is done, so it will run out just in time for the next wave.

This one is outside the competition, as it's on short mode. But still, I wanted to share this lucky result with you: Very hard, samerandom, short mode. Build is periodics, phasor, light3. I leak one shredder and one murlock, and I harvest life for one wave early on. I stalled for gold by slowing only, and got to ronald in about 40 minutes. Result: 1319 Ronnies. 1671 Etd(4pb avh sr sm) wl 1319########.w3g

Each region with one terrain type looks really great. Only two things bother me: The map is too fragmented, and the cliffs are missing. Are there any other cliffs than the grassland ones? I can see that cliffs suck from a design pov, but this still has to function as a map.

I miss the cliffs too, and the trees on the southern border are in fact a bit in the way. But what bothers me most is that the sections are to small to do several terrains in them. My suggestion is: Do one terrain typer per region, or maybe 2 with a very smooth transition. Void is great with lighting scenes, but I didn't notice any of that so far. Is the lighting not working in mp?

It is not reset, the monsoon uses the same cooldown state as the windstorm it is upgraded from. That's why windstorm micro is so important before upgrading. Often it makes sense to start the tornado manually, so it will expire early into the next wave.

You can't use the group hotkeys for commands. Andeven if you could, which you can't, I would need them for groups.

I did over 4000...

Holepercent - do I get this right, you can't say if you are coming until the 1st of february? So I don't know how many people we will be till then? Man, this is tricky. Can't you blackmail somebody? Or bribe? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Edit: OK, got a new list here. All have some sort of internet. All have at least 3 seperate beds (plus my camp bed means we can sleep in seperate beds as long as jolins not there). All have 3 rooms or more, we could get a lower price if we include 2 room flats. If we take a 3 room flat we have no problem including % last minute, because they don't really get cheaper for 3 persons. The price I listed is an estimate for 4 persons and 12 days, assuming I understood the prices. (5.- for w-lan. Per day? Per person?) 363 (1260.-) 10% discount? http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... 4&unr=363& 426 (988.-) http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... =4&unr=426 518 (1118.-) DSL? http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... =4&unr=518 556 (1113.-) DSL? http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... 4&unr=556& 916 (1015.-) http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... =4&unr=916 1115 (1108.-) DSL? http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... &unr=1115& 1210 (1113.-) DSL? http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... &unr=1210& 1310 (1126.- + 60.- w-lan = 1186.-) http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... 4&unr=1310 1390 (1065.-) 5th person? http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... 4&unr=1390 1420 (1113.-) DSL? http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... &unr=1420& 1426 (1053.- + 120.- i-net = 1173.-) http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... 4&unr=1426 1517 (1243.-) 5th person? http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... 4&unr=1517 1623 (1114.-) 5th person? http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... 4&unr=1623 1684 (1253.-) http://www.ferienwohnung-zimmer-berlin. ... 4&unr=1684 My favourite one is 426. It's the cheapest one, can hold 5 persons easily, has dsl, and a good location too imo.

To make this even clearer: In the dev team there is a strong party that thinks that slpash/slow schould not be the one and only way to play the map.

@M45T3R - He is right, behave. @Treyn - You messed up your map name. Please stick to the rules.

We allready have allmost that, it's the flame tower. And it burns burns burns...

I assume that you arrive sometime on the 17th, so you sleep in germany that evening, and that you depart on the 29th, so you don't spend that night here anymore, right? That's 12 nights total, correct?

Under 100k, but a lot. It should take a few days to get there.

In the pb the periodic is so overpowered, that you shouldn't even think about getting any other pure. Imo you should get this for maximum effect: L2, D1, W2, F2, N2, E2. You can't max any dual support, but you max a lot of tripple support; you get maxed storm, nova, polar, enchantment. You could also go for D2 and L1, to max acid, muck, roots, voodoo, but the result is a bit weaker. You should not level both L and D, as the trickery tower is still pretty messed up in the pb. If you still are confused about how to handle vh on the pb, maybe get some some replays? You should be able to watch the double no leak replay. (You are using a 1.20e installation, right?)