Vyce663

For the latest WC3 version its https://forums.eletd.com/Element-TD-43-t2044.html Although it is no longer being updated by Karawasa anymore.

You can't really be complaining about a game being hard on its hardest setting can you? The interest scaling up for VH is the only real reason you can beat it although i don't know honestly why its lower on easier settings.

What you can think about it is say the light tower is attacking at 22 range. With the missile speed not being instant it may waste 2 shots not hitting a creep (possibly more or less) but thats 2 shots that the fire tower WILL hit and have a probable AOE. If we do some simple math and figure out the towers dps we get the fire tower doing 5681.25 dps and the light doing 11362.5 dps yes thats about half the dps the fire damage is doing if we look at it as if every attack hits. Now we need to figure out what we are attacking a boss or multiple mobs. If boss yes of course the single target tower will do more. But normal waves you may catch 2-5+ mobs in each attack with the fire tower. So not including any tower missing (the light tower does alot just admit it). 2840.625 *Targets above 2 will be considered in 3 range not 1.5* DPS Fire | Light 1 target 5681.25 11362.5 2 targets 11362.5 11362.5 3 targets 14203.12 11362.5 4 targets 17043.75 11362.5 5 targets 19884.36 11362.5 So id honestly say given that is fire tower *CAN* be better. It's all based on situation.

Yes. Do you think we could possibly get a bit more information on exactly what does and does not give XP?

Very reasonable if you ask me.

According to Twilice it should be up by the end of the day.

Big bold letters on the main page of forums saying that you have to download the map VIA Battle.net. We get someone like every day asking that.

If by it you mean the map no. You have to download it VIA Battle.Net

Ya know. Maverck's post gave me a slight idea. If a custom resource is used you can have a system where you may only purchase only certain weapons that cost varying amounts of said resource that you get (say every time you would get a gas you get one of this also) you can choose to spend it on something weaker like a... heal on a enemy mob, or saving it and getting somthing possibly devastating like sleeping your enemy's worker. Adds more depth to the system if ya ask me.

Well, it brings a total different type of gameplay as you have to work around what your given. It can truely show who has more skill not who knows the best build .

Yeah, you have a good point. Maybe 25% then would be even better, requiring 2 others to vote with the host.

Yeah i like the 50% idea. It seems to be a fair compromise.

Yeah yeah details

So to continue on what Karawasa said... A mob starting at 100% speed of course... Hit by 1 10% slow : Will be moving at 90% speed Hit by 2 10% slow : Will be moving at 81% speed Hit by 3 10% slow : Will be moving at 72.9% speed Hit by 4 10% slow : Will be moving at 65.61% speed Now we have 30% slows too... so heres all your combos you can slow for. Please remember that it matters what one hits first so i will calculate it as if the bigger slow hits first. 1 30% slow Hit by 0 10% slow and 1 30% slow : Will be moving at 70.00% speed Hit by 1 10% slow and 1 30% slow : Will be moving at 63.00% speed Hit by 2 10% slow and 1 30% slow : Will be moving at 56.70% speed Hit by 3 10% slow and 1 30% slow : Will be moving at 51.03% speed Hit by 4 10% slow and 1 30% slow : Will be moving at 45.92% speed 2 30% slows Hit by 0 10% slow and 2 30% slow : Will be moving at 49.00% speed Hit by 1 10% slow and 2 30% slow : Will be moving at 44.10% speed Hit by 2 10% slow and 2 30% slow : Will be moving at 39.69% speed Hit by 3 10% slow and 2 30% slow : Will be moving at 35.72% speed Hit by 4 10% slow and 2 30% slow : Will be moving at 32.14% speed 3 30% slows Hit by 0 10% slow and 3 30% slow : Will be moving at 34.30% speed Hit by 1 10% slow and 3 30% slow : Will be moving at 30.87% speed Hit by 2 10% slow and 3 30% slow : Will be moving at 27.78% speed Hit by 3 10% slow and 3 30% slow : Will be moving at 25.00% speed Hit by 4 10% slow and 3 30% slow : Will be moving at 22.50% speed 4 30% slows Hit by 0 10% slow and 4 30% slow : Will be moving at 24.01% speed Hit by 1 10% slow and 4 30% slow : Will be moving at 21.60% speed Hit by 2 10% slow and 4 30% slow : Will be moving at 19.44% speed Hit by 3 10% slow and 4 30% slow : Will be moving at 17.50% speed Hit by 4 10% slow and 4 30% slow : Will be moving at 15.75% speed Small chance i messed up so tell me if you notice one.

Ohh god please no don't put this into the game ALWAYS. Griefers amuck!

I mean honestly Mega hit the nail on the head. Not many players who play the game for the first time want to be placed in a game where VH is going to happen. They will get their asses kicked within the first few rounds. But i do want to bring the attention to *IF* you had the control to choose the difficulty as host and set it as VH. How many of the players who were there (8) do you think would stay in the game? To be honest i would guess around 1-3 other players would and that's more than half gone. Not something really conductive towards a game being popular just "Hoping" the host will pick what you want.

Hmm. I guess you are right it truely isent stated that it will effect YOUR difficulty not a vote for EVERYONE'S difficulty like it used to be. Perhaps this could be stated better for new players.

I know this might be a bit off topic but. When you said "Math ends here" i donno my head still kinda hurt after that area.

Chiq has a point with interest. Besides you say its a risk to take but lets face it. As a seasoned/veteran player its no risk anymore maybe the first time but not anymore.

I've gotta agree about the intrest thing but. I'm not totally sure why the intrest upgrades were included in the game in the first place. To be honest thats what should be gone with.

I mean. I gotta be honest i like the beginning of it. Although i have played short mode a few times I normally play normal. I like it being there as a OPTION. My opinion of course

It will automatically update on Starcraft 2 itself next time you host/join the game. If this is another question from people pirating the game and not having access to battle.net then no you cannot have it.

But they are also more awesome then the other towers too!

I like the make timer longer as the game goes on idea. It seems like it would make more sense then having a static 60 seconds or so for every round where clearly lower levels take ALOT less time to kill and lets be honest the more time you have the more tempted you probably will be to leak one for income. However the way the time scales id say should probably be upped more time/round every 5-10 levels max to allow for more smooth game play rather then adding an extra 20 seconds or so every 20 levels.

God i couldent agree any more. Some games that do that its like the good people get better and the worse people stay bad because of that system.