something to bash those interest-bastard-player

[Guest dyehardz]

intro : what is interest-bastard-player?

any player who loves to sell some towers just for

getting some interest money, then rebuild it again.

you'll see this kind of player at any random game.

imo this technique is kinda ruining the game a bit.

it's more like a 'cheap trick' than a 'good strategy'.

(although my playing style is like this)

building & upgrading a tower takes several seconds, right?

why don't you apply the same thing for selling tower?

the time is equal to sum of its building time from scratch.

eg. selling laser takes longer than selling light lv2.

and you get the gold aftar that delay.

(don't forget that selling are cancel-able now0

with this restriction, I believe we will have

better gameplays with strategy than 'cheap trick'.

what's your opinion?

[jolin012]

It's true that it ain't pure strategy. but it's not a cheap trick^^(imo) It's a great thing that allows you to scrap together some cash by beeing active and not only sleeping, and also allows the player to increase his skill not only strategy-wise but also some skill with the game that can always get a bit better. There has allready been a sugguestion to remove the opportunity of selling/rebuilding, that was about making interest come every second instead, at a lower rate, however, the idea was mostly dislikes as far as i remember.

[Twilice]

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

this is one of the things that makes eletd so fun for me

why not just play pick if u dont want to deal with it?

as it is sell-rebuild already loses effectiveness as game goes on--even if selling is instant, building times go up and temporary towers become obsolete.

[Cisz]

Selling/rebuilding and farming interest is one of the mayor features of the map. It is absolutely intended by the maker(s), it even has an interest counter to allow timed selling.

I did about +10%-20% networth in 3.0 (should be similiar in 4.0pb). So farming is one mayor source of income.

Farming is one of the reasons that it is not enough to know a build. In rts you need to actually pull it off in time. Having heard of a good build does not make up for no skill.

[Guest dyehardz]

have selling time doesnt mean you cant sell at all.

you just need more skill to determine the right time

to sell if you want to get interest, especially

interest from selling high lvl towers.

in other word : its more challenging.

I dont mind selling-building towers. actually

we need this ability to survive in random games.

what I mind is 'easily' sell towers just to get

interest, then rebuild it. especially if he

sells the _expensive_ periodic towers while

it is very _easy_ (only need 1 step) and

quite _fast_ to build. (compared to pure elements)

some questions :

- what is the reason to have building time?

- why the builder have slow movement?

I think the answer is to 'counter' those kind of players.

well, these are just my opinions.

it's OK if you dont like it.

[Cisz]

The builder is not slow. He almost never is not where he should be, and if he is, it's my fault.

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

cisz iirc i noticed in your replays you use shift to rally build groups of towers, couldn't you use the "aco build trick" to do it a little faster?

[Cisz]

I'm not sure if that trick works, because I am to slow for that.