jolin012 Posted August 13, 2008 In build rebalance I added the numbers that have been attempted to be implented (ie, I don't care if one tower failed and became imbalanced, i used the numbers that i guessed this version was aiming for) and got following results of build strength: 3332 90,0 3332 101,4 33311 96,6 33311 41,9 33221 73,5 33221 135,0 32222 71,6 332111 86,8 332111 67,4 322211 59,1 322211 60,6 222221 109,7 Which means that the best use of any 5 ele build will result in 135 dmg/sec/gold and the best use of any 6 ele build will result in 109,7 dmg/sec/gold and the best use of a 4ele build with 2 support duals will result in 90 dmg/sec/gold and the best use of any 4ele build including a suport dual and 2 support triples will result in 101,4dmg/sec/gold. That is a big build imbalance, with a 50% better use of 5ele than 4ele double dual. How about attempting to implent numbers that will actually succeed instead? And by the way, The game suddenly got alot easier. I beat the game with only electricity and blacksmith at area 7 in first try on pick, without any interest farming. So I'd sugguest trying to stay below a total of 100dpspg unless we want to change all hp or armor or stuff again. Go to top Share this post Link to post
Karawasa Posted August 13, 2008 Cisz's Build Explorer displayed the DPSG of the builds as 60/65/70, as opposed to 30/50/130 in the PB. Even with the imbalances you mentioned, it still sounds a lot better than what we had with the PB. You expect too much too fast, if we got it right the first time we would be at 4.0 release now . That being said, if we are at least on the right path then future updates can tweak this until it works. /summon Cisz Go to top Share this post Link to post
jolin012 Posted August 13, 2008 oh right, Cisz's one works a little bit different. and btw, not to compleain, but why not start at something that looks ike 60/60/60 in the table? instead of 60/65/70 when we know it'll change a bit anyway. And, we found a way to concentrate the 6ele power just like 4ele instead of having that one spread, but that might not be nessesary as the 4ele supporters cost less. Go to top Share this post Link to post
Cisz Posted August 14, 2008 ..and that would be true is karawasa actually used my numbers and not his own. Go to top Share this post Link to post
Karawasa Posted August 14, 2008 ..and that would be true is karawasa actually used my numbers and not his own. I used the Build Explorer(your rubric) to come up with the numbers. I admit that they were not yours, and thus had a spread of 60/65/70(4/5/6) as opposed to a tighter spread. However, the differences between our distributions are minor. Mainly support Dual 25/50/200 instead of 25/50/250, and support Triple 10/30 instead of 10/35. The rubric is saying that the 4/5/6 element builds should be about equal. From what jolin is saying it sounds like there is potentially a bigger problem. It could also be a result of other changes needed. Compared to PB, 4 element builds doubled in power, 5 element builds got a moderate boost, and 6 element build got halved in power. I believe it may be that the micro imbalances are standing out more. Also consider that the creep hp buff may not have been enough to make up for the overall power increase. See attached. Go to top Share this post Link to post