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633 replay worked for me howardmoon. Just put your map in correct folder. And selling/rebuildin arrow/cannon towers is not what made this game awesome. Doing that for double/triple element towers on random mode is. On harder modes where it actually matters what towers you build. If you get 2 interest on VEZ its very easy to get maxed gold without too much sweating anyway.. you need so little towers that 2 interest is more than enough. On very hard you actually have to do that a lot just not to leak for first 20 waves. Not hard though.

I didnt say that there isnt room for improvements. Just that there is too little room for innovation imo. Eletd used to be only very hard and mainly random element so you could show your skill by selling and rebuilding double/triple element towers according the wave and gaining interest. it was quite blast to a watch skilled eletd player jugling those towers. Now watching VE all pick mode where builder just idles around while as slow as possible minumum number of life towers gain extra lives. That is quite a step downwards as far as entertainment goes if you ask me.

Mainly becouse VE is very abusive. You can survive with too little all the way to the ronalds. Whole concept is to get gold for maxed number of towers (interest/gold towers). Then pondering how many extra lives you can get with life towers. I dont think there is much room for "trying new stuff" as there would be if alone surviving to ronalds wouldnt be so trivial. Or if filling whole map with towers would be impossible so mere 20k gold difference would be a huge deal in the end.

Its good that you hace revived these forums with your debate! There is 633 ronald kills replay too so i think we can finally leave VE AP behind and start Very hard or at least start using random rule on difficulty normal or harder. Selling/rebuilding is what makes this game the best td.

howardmoon + twilice: I suggest u play your duel on garena server so there will be no lag and i can obs! I suggest normal mode. Very Hard Same random.

Virus-guy replay worked for me at least. You may have to copy your eletd map into maps/frozen/scenario or something.. I didnt watch if he actually killed the amount he said (who cares about very easy ronalds..!?), but replay is legit and working.

I think NELF build is the best build to kill ronalds on very hard. This game was quite sloppy but if you try to perfect this (and not lose over 30 lives before ronald wave) I think 200 ronalds on VH is not impossible task. If you know other effective builds to kill over 100 ronald i`m very eager to hear those. I think i have had my yearly Eletd hunger satisfied now. Arir 100 VH ronald kills.w3g

Triples for LDNE are Roots, Laser, Oblivion, Ench. Oblivion seems quite useless to me. I massed mostly Phaser towers (upped laser) for raw dmg and placed most those in the middle and some at 9 numpad area. Also with lvl 1 water i think i had at least as many polars as phasers. You are right about life towers. I should have stopped using those earlier. There were some chaotic moments that cost me like 30 or so life I know mirage towers are meant to be support but i was pondering if those actually deal more dmg against darkness waves than lvl 1 laser. When i got lvl 2 earth i stopped using mirages and moved on to phasers. My main concern is still if i used my gold correctly in the end. As with 24k less gold and 10 less lives i got clearly more ronalds with NELF build.

I need Help! When there arent that many very hard games i have courage to post my humble struggle against normal ronalds. Previous round (all pick) my maze was almost 24k worth less than this time. And now i started with 46 life (with AP i had 36). So i was pretty confident and had decent chance of beating my AP record. Especially when i was lucky enough to get all elements and only water and fire didnt reach level 2. With less gold/lives and all-pick i got 176 ronalds and now with almost perfect random elements i got just 118 ronalds. Why? please check this replay and tell me which towers/placements i should have used against ronalds. Arir 118 AR normal ronald kills.w3g

I have some bad experiences from watching old replays. It was so much trouble. :S If u have time could you arrange a show match (or couple) bewteen you, some other inactive old schoolers (or do you still play regularly..?) and new talents...? That would truly showcase how harassing abilities can be used on newest map.

I posted this as a response on one replay but i think i can find more eyes this way: "Hello guys! I`m old eletd forum lurker. I havent been visiting this site for many years and now after couple drunken lan eletd matches with friends got some spark again. I`m quite shocked to be honest. Old rules were: "Play very hard mode, normal (no short) and add replay" otherwise no-one was interested in your results. "All random" high scores were the most sought after as selling/rebuilding multiple element towers all game long is much more skill based than all-pick which tooks almost only knowledge when/where to build. Yes it might took couple runs to get playable element set for very hard but it definitely is more fun than figuring what u need on which level with all-pick. Imo you could start on short mode once u have proven that u can jugle first 15 very hard waves with just basic towers and no leak. Now most games i see are on all-pick and on top of that they are on easier than very hard or use short/extra short mode. (Maybe i have watched wrong replays...?) This is not impressing at all compared to Kirby, Jolin012 times! You should at least start using random mode as it might give some skill cap between you and random noob who copies your build order and tower placement. This assuming you can play this game." Sorry if i was a bit rude but i really wanted to watch some hard core VH SR jugling but couldnt find any. Especially now when u can harass your opponent that actually might be quite entertaining to observe 2 skilled players duking it out with VH same random mode.

Hello guys! I`m old eletd forum lurker. I havent been visiting this site for many years and now after couple drunken lan eletd matches with friends got some spark again. I`m quite shocked to be honest. Old rules were: "Play very hard mode, normal (no short) and add replay" otherwise no-one was interested in your results. "All random" high scores were the most sought after as selling/rebuilding multiple element towers all game long is much more skill based than all-pick which tooks almost only knowledge when/where to build. Yes it might took couple runs to get playable elent set for very hard but it definitely is more fun than figuring what u need on which level with all-pick. Imo you could start on short mode once u have proven that u can jugle first 15 very hard waves with just basic towers and no leak. Now most games i see are on all-pick and on top of that they are on easier than very hard or use short/extra short mode. (Maybe i have watched wrong topics...?) This is not impressing at all compared to Kirby, Jolin012 times! You should at least start using random mode as it might give at least some skill cap between you and random noob who copies your build order and tower placement. This assuming you can play this game.