Specifically Barb and Muck. If a creep is hit by both, does it get 20%, 11%, or 10% slower ?


Sorry if this is redundant but I really did try to search and check stickies etc =(

If creep is hit by both it gets 10% reduction then 10% of what is left. So 19% total.

So to continue on what Karawasa said...

A mob starting at 100% speed of course...

Hit by 1 10% slow : Will be moving at 90% speed
Hit by 2 10% slow : Will be moving at 81% speed
Hit by 3 10% slow : Will be moving at 72.9% speed
Hit by 4 10% slow : Will be moving at 65.61% speed

Now we have 30% slows too... so heres all your combos you can slow for. Please remember that it matters what one hits first so i will calculate it as if the bigger slow hits first.

1 30% slow
Hit by 0 10% slow and 1 30% slow : Will be moving at 70.00% speed
Hit by 1 10% slow and 1 30% slow : Will be moving at 63.00% speed
Hit by 2 10% slow and 1 30% slow : Will be moving at 56.70% speed
Hit by 3 10% slow and 1 30% slow : Will be moving at 51.03% speed
Hit by 4 10% slow and 1 30% slow : Will be moving at 45.92% speed

2 30% slows
Hit by 0 10% slow and 2 30% slow : Will be moving at 49.00% speed
Hit by 1 10% slow and 2 30% slow : Will be moving at 44.10% speed
Hit by 2 10% slow and 2 30% slow : Will be moving at 39.69% speed
Hit by 3 10% slow and 2 30% slow : Will be moving at 35.72% speed
Hit by 4 10% slow and 2 30% slow : Will be moving at 32.14% speed

3 30% slows
Hit by 0 10% slow and 3 30% slow : Will be moving at 34.30% speed
Hit by 1 10% slow and 3 30% slow : Will be moving at 30.87% speed
Hit by 2 10% slow and 3 30% slow : Will be moving at 27.78% speed
Hit by 3 10% slow and 3 30% slow : Will be moving at 25.00% speed
Hit by 4 10% slow and 3 30% slow : Will be moving at 22.50% speed

4 30% slows
Hit by 0 10% slow and 4 30% slow : Will be moving at 24.01% speed
Hit by 1 10% slow and 4 30% slow : Will be moving at 21.60% speed
Hit by 2 10% slow and 4 30% slow : Will be moving at 19.44% speed
Hit by 3 10% slow and 4 30% slow : Will be moving at 17.50% speed
Hit by 4 10% slow and 4 30% slow : Will be moving at 15.75% speed

Small chance i messed up so tell me if you notice one.

The maximum slow should be 66%.

This is true in WC3, but there is no bottom in SC2. Though, with the way slows work I wonder if it's even possible to get to this limit in the first place.

The 10% and 30% slows of each respective tower type are mutually exclusive.

Additionally, the required elements are distributed in such a way that you can only ever achieve level 2 in the elements for 2 of the 4 towers at any given time.

In other words, the maximum slow possible is 2x 30% + 2x 10%, which works out to around 60% movespeed reduction.

Oh, and it doesn't matter which one hits first. The multiplicative reduction will be the same.

Yeah yeah details

When we talk about 4 towers, we mean barb, muck, ion and the other one ? Multiple mucks, for example, won't stack will they ?

No, slowing towers of the same triple element have mutually exclusive slows. Muck 1 will not stack with Muck 1. Muck 1 will not stack with Muck 2. Muck 1 will stack with Ion 1 OR 2, Barb 1 OR 2, and Nova 1 OR 2.

I feel like slow is quite a bit weaker in sc2 then it was in wc3.
Anyone think so?

I do. Attack speed is way better.